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Caste system is not vedic Tuesday, May 29 2007
brahman and brahmin and caste and dvija and gurudev and hindu and hinduism and hitxp and India and janma and karma and krishna and ravana and reservations and valmiki and vedas and vedic and vyasa Gurudev 7:19 pm
Story behind OBC Monday, Apr 9 2007
constitution and India and OBC and Politics and quota and reservations and social justice Gurudev 8:59 am
Well, many of you may not be aware that OBC (Other Backwards Classess) are not a constitutional creation in India unlike the SC and ST
When the constitution of India was created under the supervision of great people like Dr B R Ambedkar, they saw the needs to provide reservations for the socially backward classes categorized as Scheduled Castes (SC) and Scheduled Tribes (ST) FOR A LIMITED PERIOD OF ONLY of about 20 years to bring the backward classes on equal footage with other classes of the society, not indefinitely, but thanks to Congress and its votebank politics, India has become the only country in the world where people compete to call themselves minorities and backward classes!!!
Let us leave the SC ST thing aside for a moment.
Where did these OBCs come from? Well, they were created in 1990s by VP Singh to create a votebank of his own. He listed all those vote bank classes who were not listed under SC ST as OBC and created another section of caste based vote bank, and the congress is determined to continue this to keep itself in power…
Now let me ask the congress and all other political parties, the logic for the existence of OBC categories in India. Why were they created in 1990s almost 45 years after the independence????? In fact after so many years of Independence, the rulers of this country should have created social equality so that even existing caste based reservations for SC ST should have been abolished!!
There could be only two reasons for the creation of OBC in 1990s
1) The great people who created our constitution in 1950 failed to identify other backwards sections of the society(!!!!)
2) After ruling the country for 45 years since independence, congress had ruined and looted the country so much and created so much more backwardness in the country that in 1990s it became necessary to create another section of backward classes in the name of OBC!!
I dont think reason #1 is appropriate because experts from all sections of the society worked on the constitution keeping in view the then social setup and the future of this country. Great experts like Ambedkar would not have missed the needs of any section of the society. Even otherwise it would not have gone unidentified for 45 long years!!!
So the only reason for creating OBC is reason #2, the Congress which ruled India for 45 years created more backwardness in India.. thats the reason why even today more and more castes are being categorized as backward in this country. While the original list of OBC was created it had about 200 castes in it, today its more than 2000!!
Give congress power for another 50 years and there will be MBC(Most Backward classes), MMBC, MMMBC…. and finally entire India will be covered under reservations!!
Continue voting for congress for a backward India!!
Are you from Uttar Pradesh? Monday, Apr 9 2007
India and Politics and social justice and uttar pradesh Gurudev 8:29 am
1/6 of humanity lives in India! 1/6 of India is at polls now! Yes I am talking about the UP polls, where 1/6 of India live
Elections are going on at UP for the state assembly. The so called IT folks of UP are all over India ranging from the silicon valley of India, Bangalore in the south to Gurgaon in the North. But why is UP in so bad state today? Obviously bcos of the corrupt criminal communal political class of the state..
My question is how many of these IT/ITES/related professionals from UP are going back to their state this month to case their valuable votes?? If you are from UP and are going to cast your vote in this election, very good, you can stop here, else read on…
Your state cannot develop and flourish just by sitting in your AC chambers and forwarding emails about the bad state of affairs in uttar pradesh, nor just talking about heavy crime rate in UP or the corruption of your representatives or the vote bank caste based politics which is ruining the state.
Being an educated (?!) citizen the least that you should do as a duty towards your nation is to cast your vote when the elections come and elect the representatives who you feel can develop your state.
Dont give silly arguments like ‘I dont feel like voting to any candidate as all are corrupt and criminal’, because you can still go to the voting booth and cast your vote against form 18, which says that you dont want to vote to any of the candidates as you feel none are eligible, this will be registered as a negative vote against all and if in a constituency more than certain percent of electorate vote for form(18) then there will be a re-election with new set of candidates! Learn the rules before blaming that there is none. In India there are all kinds of laws, only people are ill informed.
Next time before you forward an email about bad governance in uttar pradesh, or complain about the lack of basic needs or blame corruption or criminals, just ask a question to yourself, ‘did I cast my vote to elect my representative?’, If the answer is no, shame on you and your education, dont call yourself a responsible citizen or an educated gentleman/gentlewoman, better than you are those uneducated (which I dont feel so) villagers who went out and casted their vote. DONT ASK FOR YOUR RIGHTS WITHOUT PERFORMING YOUR DUTIES.
I would prefer a law in India which says that your fundamental rights are guaranteed only if you are performing your fundamental duties.
Remember that, if you have not cast your vote then, YOU ARE EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FAILURE OF YOUR STATE ALONG WITH THE MULAYAMS AND MAYAWATIS
So next time include your name as well in that list of people resposnsible for the sorry state of UP if you have not cast your vote
Can left ever be right? Thursday, Mar 15 2007
CPIM and India and left and marxism and Politics and social justice and westbengal Gurudev 3:57 pm
Looks like the CPI(M) left government in West Bengal lead by Buddhadev Bhattacharya is determined to simulate its ideological brother China’s brutality and suppression of democracy and people’s rights and wants to create situations like Tianenmen square in India.
The red party wants the blood of its citizens to paint its party offices. On March 14 the police opened fire killing 14 villagers (including women and children) who were protesting against their land being acquired by the government to create a special economic zone (SEZ) to promote a chemicals hub by Salim groups of Indonesia. Well, you refuse to give your land and you will be literally fired. That’s what happens in China, well now it happens in our mini China in west bengal too!!!
If the same incident had taken place in any other state the left would have made a huge hue and cry to dismiss the state government and what not, but look at its response now, its leader Mr Sitaram Yechury says ‘Law and order problems should be dealt by the state, center should not intervene in it’, Well Mr Yechury what should the center do when the state itself is creating a law and order problem, the people of the state do not want this government and there is a constitutional breakdown??
And today the police were again lathi charging people in Nandigram and when the reporters went to record it, they were lathi charged too!!! Typical Chinese followers!
On 14th 5000 policement entered Nandigram before opening the fire.. Why?? To maintain peace and restore law and order is what they say.. but 5000?? Was there some kind of war going on in that village?? and these 5000 peace keepers instead of restoring the law and order created a law and order problem by killing 14 people.. Where the villagers carrying AK-47 that even 5000 policemen were not able to maintain law and order and had to open fire, that too on women and children??
Shame on you buddhadev and the left.. left has nothing left in it… These are the same left parties which were against globalization yesterday and today they open fire on their people to promote MNCs.. Do they really have something called an ideology?
West bengal government today has become a communist government in collbaration with capitalist establishments.
The left parties which (mis)governed the state for the past 24 years have suddenly realised that the state needs industrialisation (which they were fiercely opposing till now) if the state has to develop and hence with an urgency of inviting all tom, dick and harry companies into the state they are ready to go to any extent to give these companies what they are demanding.. Even to the extent of killing the very same who voted for them…..
Reverse Discrimination Thursday, Mar 15 2007
constitution and crime and India and Information Technology and IT and OBC and Politics and quota and reservations and social justice Gurudev 2:48 pm
This is exactly whats going on in India in the name of reservations.. reverse discrimination.
A student with 90% score is denied his rightful seat in an educational institution just because there is another candidate who belongs to the politicians created class called OBC even though the OBC candidate has a much lower score in the entrance exams than the general merit student!! Isn’t this a crime on the general merit student? Isnt he been denied his rightful seat in the educational institution? The situation might even be so worse, thanks to the mindless government policies, the reserved candidate might be the son of a rich IAS officer (who himself might have become an IAS officer not based on merit but based on his caste!!), while the 90% score holder general merit student might be the son of a poor school teacher!!!!!
One of the greatest racial discriminations is being conducted in India in the name of reservations today… Where is the end to this?
Shouldn’t reservations if they are really needed be based on economic basis than on caste basis? Does poverty discrimate between OBC and upper caste?? Does one need a harward degree to understand this simple commonsense?
The government has failed miserably in its obligation to provide quality primary education to all the children of India. In an effort to pass the bucks and to fuel its vote bank politics now they want the private sector to provide reservations in the jobs!!! Can somebody please tell me if they have heard anything more insane than this ?? Companies run business and for the business to succeed they need best of the brains and best of the brains are evaluated based on competition and merits, not on reservations… Can a 40% scorer be asked to design a pentium chip at Intel?? Is there a bigger joke than this? Most reserved candidates do not complete their IIT courses because they are not able to cope up with the subject as they never learnt the basics in the lower classes and were selected to IIT simply based on reservation!! Wouldnt such reserved seats have proved their worth if the same seat was given to a merit student instead of being wasted like this?? Arent we losing more einsteins and abdul kalams in this process? Isn’t this a denial of his fundamental right for the merit based student???
Why is the government so hell bent on creating a second class knowledge society in this country? I am not against the upliftment of backward classes. I would be more happy to see all 100% seats being occupied by SC/ST/OBC not based on reservations but based on their own merit. That will mean a India poised to become a superpower. People belonging to the so called backward classes have to realise that the government does not want them to come up because of the fear of losing their vote banks and hence instead of providing quality primary education to students of these classes (and of course to all), it is sticking to cheap populistic but disastorous political moves like reservations. The government is determined to permanently label these classes as backward! What has the government done to provide quality primary education to children of these classes ( and of course to the poor in all classes upper or lower) in the past 60 years??
In our IT industry if a single project of 2 months fails, we have root cause analysis, lessons learnt documented and those who erred might even get fired. What do you think should be the punishment to these politicians for having failed to deliver their promises? Indira Gandhi’s grand son is still roaming and campaigning in the state of uttar pradesh for elections using the same slogan and its derivatives used by his grand mother ‘Garibi Hatao’ (Remove Poverty!!)
In another 50 years it will be the so called today’s upper class who will be feeling that they have been discriminated for a century and then the upper class will start a movement for providing reservations to them… Where is the end to this vicious cycle??
Can any sane person in the government explain me how come the number of castes in SC/ST/OBC list has increased n folds in the past 30 years while logically speaking should be decreasing?? Does it mean that government (especially the congress party) suddenly realised that due to its inefficient functioning more and more communities are becoming backward as time progressed??
Making it a law to provide quotas in private sector will lead to the following immediate negative effects in the country:
- Multinational companies want quality not quotas in the candidates and will leave India if forced to provide reservations
- China will naturally overtake India even in the IT sector in which India had its lead till today. India currently leads the world IT offshoring services thanks to its merit based talented middles class and thankfully for the government not interefering in the way the IT industry conducts its professional business. But not anymore, government wants to tell IT who it has to hire and fire!! Who knows the government might also create a law where no reserved candidates should be in the list when a company has to do a layoff!!
- More importantly, more and more frustrated brains will drain out of India to join NASA, IBM and Pentagon and our ISRO,HAL will continue to import spare parts for its satellites from US and european countries…
The government is saying to a General Merit based student with 90% score
‘Go to hell, you are a GM student’
The GM student will tell the government
‘You go to hell, I am off to US’
Coming days will decide who went where…
Atleast now we know what it really takes for India to be a superpower.. keep the politicians out of this entire business…
Reservations aka Reversations Wednesday, Mar 7 2007
India and quota and reservations and social justice Gurudev 6:26 pm
Came across this effective story sometime back….
Got it as some forwarded email. Please let me know if you find the actual source/author. Hats off to the writer for presenting it so effectively.
OLD VERSION…
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant’s a fool and laughs & dances
& plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food or shelter so he dies out in the cold.
MODERN VERSION (excellent)
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant’s a fool and laughs & dances & plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving.
NDTV, BBC, CNN show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable Home with a table filled with food.
The World is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be that this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?
Arundhati Roy stages a demonstration in front of the ant’s house. Medha Patkar goes on a fast along with other grasshoppers demanding that grasshoppers be relocated to warmer climates during winter. Amnesty International and Koffi Annan criticize the Indian Government for not upholding the fundamental rights of the grasshopper.
The Internet is flooded with online petitions seeking support to the grasshopper (many promising Heaven and Everlasting Peace for prompt support as against the wrath of God for non-compliance). Opposition MP’s stage a walkout.Left parties call for “Bharat Bandh” in West Bengal and Kerala demanding a Judicial Enquiry.CPM in Kerala immediately passes a law preventing Ants from working hard in the heat so as to bring about equality of poverty among ants and grasshoppers.
Lalu Prasad allocates one free coach to Grasshoppers on all Indian Railway Trains, aptly named as the ‘Grasshopper Rath’. Finally, the Judicial Committee drafts the Prevention of Terrorism Against Grasshoppers Act [POTAGA]“, with effect from the beginning of
the winter.
Arjun Singh makes Special Reservation for GrassHopper in educational Insititutions & in Govt Services.
The ant is fined for failing to comply with POTAGA and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the Government and handed over to the grasshopper in a ceremony covered by NDTV. Arundhati Roy calls it “a triumph of justice”. Lalu calls it ‘Socialistic Justice’. CPM calls it the ‘revolutionary resurgence of the
downtrodden’ Koffi Annan invites the grasshopper to address the UN General Assembly.
Many years later…The ant has since migrated to the US and set up a multi billion dollar company in silicon valley. 100s of grasshoppers still die of starvation despite reservation
somewhere in India …
As a result loosing lot of hard working ants and feeding the grasshoppers, India is still a developing country……
Who is an OBC? Monday, May 29 2006
India and OBC and quota and reservations and social justice Gurudev 11:57 am
THe recent government proposal to further divide the country based on caste by providing OBC reservation raised another question in my mind. Who or what exactly is an OBC??
The answer I found was shocking!! The concept of OBC never existed in the constitution of India which was formed in 1950. The original constitution had only the categorization of SC/ST and recommended reservations for SC/ST for a given time period to ensure social justice, which I feel was fair enough.
But in 1990, instead of taking concrete steps to ensure that caste based reservation system comes to its logical end after giving equal opportunities to all sections of the society, the great V P Singh implemented mandal recommendations by amending the constitution and creating a totally new category called OBC (Other Backward Class). Mr Singh’s government made the 93rd amendment to the constitution to add OBC to SC/ST category. More funny is the fact that the reservation percentage based on this amendment done in 1990 was decided based on a 1931 census!! Originally there were about 1200 communities classified as OBC in 1990 and today their number is about 2300!! Instead of becoming a knowledge based developed nation, today India is becoming more and more backward thanks to Congress and Co..
I simply cant understand that if this so called OBC really existed in India, then it should have been more visible in 1950′s to the authors of the constitution, when they couldn’t see any such section in society, where did this come up from suddenly in 1990??? V P Singh who had become PM opposing congress was just trying to create a votebank of his own in the name of OBC and hence the same Congress which is pro OBC quota and reservation today opposed the same OBC reservation tooth and nail in 1990!!! What happened to Mr Arjun Singh’s social justice in 1990???
And now, since there are about 2200 communities in OBC as opposed to about 1200 in the orignal list, there is less quota for a OBC community than in 1990, and hence a section of OBC today is demanding a further divide in OBC called MBC (Most Backward Classes!)
So what exactly is an OBC? An innovation of Indian political class, to which more and more votebank communities are being added every year.
It is highly unfortunate that we Indians fail to understand the political gameplans and become pawns in their moves. India badly needs us, its youth to take charge of the situation before it becomes toooooo late.
Me like OBC
and so, me no like reservations
Mr Vinod Mehta: Please Talk Sense Monday, May 29 2006
India and OBC and quota and reservations and social justice Gurudev 9:58 am
Nehru on Reservations Monday, May 29 2006
India and OBC and quota and reservations and social justice Gurudev 1:33 am
Simple Question: No Answer Sunday, May 28 2006
India and OBC and quota and reservations and social justice Gurudev 12:44 am
Question: Why Reservations based on Caste? Why not only Merit?
Government Answer: Because people of SC/ST/OBC do not get quality primary education to enable them to get merit.
Question: Why Can’t they get quality education? Cant they pay for that?
Government Answer: No, because they are poor. So they cant afford quality primary education.
Question: Fair enough. But are there poor people only in SC/ST/OBC? Aren’t there poor people in the so called upper caste? So doesn’t it make more sense to give reservation based on financial background rather than on caste?
Government Answer: ???????????
No answer from the government after this logical question. So, doesn’t the government have any logic? Well it does, but it is undocumented. The government logic is, how will we get SC/ST/OBC votes if we don’t show them that we explicitly take care(?) of them? So doesn’t the government care for the so called upper caste votes? No, simply because it does not have any weightage in electoral statistics. Also because the working middle class rarely go and vote. So my dear middle class, dont do this in the next elections please.
